Matrix and IRC #62

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lunny · 2018-01-12T10:59:39Z

ShalokShalom commented

2018-01-12 10:59:39 +00:00

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IRC and Matrix is available as well - reflect that in the homepage.

strk commented

2018-01-12 11:48:24 +00:00

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Agreed. See also a previous attempt at this in #56 - that one replaced discord with matrix, maybe adding matrix and IRC would have wider acceptance

Agreed. See also a previous attempt at this in #56 - that one _replaced_ discord with matrix, maybe *adding* matrix and IRC would have wider acceptance

ShalokShalom commented

2018-01-12 13:47:46 +00:00

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For your information: Konversation 2.0 includes support for both, Matrix and IRC;

https://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Konvi2x

For your information: Konversation 2.0 includes support for both, Matrix and IRC; https://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Konvi2x

lunny commented

2018-01-12 14:45:29 +00:00

Currently, discord is still official chat channels. Why changed to others?

ShalokShalom commented

2018-01-12 15:05:06 +00:00

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Lets ask the user base.

I see 692 users in the IRC room, nearly all of them marked with a (m) for Matrix.
And now lets look into the Discord room: 52 users.

I think that speaks a clear language.

In my humble opinion:

The registration process in Discord is a pain, the whole interface is cluttered and filled with unnecessary stuff, plus the huge load of self-promotion that it puts in my way until I came from the simple
"I like to ask one quick question" through an adventure of distraction into the actual room where not even a fractional part of the community sits, while that room is, in fact, the only promoted one.

Plus, it's non-free.

That this is even a question, wonders me.

The goal of Gitea is to create an open source alternative to Github.

So, to use an alternative to other non-free solutions seems legit.

The community has already decided, does this not get accepted?

Lets ask the user base. I see 692 users in the IRC room, nearly all of them marked with a (m) for Matrix. And now lets look into the Discord room: 52 users. I think that speaks a clear language. In my humble opinion: The registration process in Discord is a pain, the whole interface is cluttered and filled with unnecessary stuff, plus the huge load of self-promotion that it puts in my way until I came from the simple "I like to ask one quick question" through an adventure of distraction into the actual room where not even a fractional part of the community sits, while that room is, in fact, the only promoted one. Plus, it's non-free. That this is even a question, wonders me. The goal of Gitea is to create an open source alternative to Github. So, to use an alternative to other non-free solutions seems legit. The community has already decided, does this not get accepted?

lunny commented

2018-01-13 01:58:34 +00:00

Discord has 942 members but we only show online users.

![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/81045/34901649-e4ccba9e-f7d2-11e7-9bc0-0aff89d4e498.png) Discord has 942 members but we only show online users.

ShalokShalom commented

2018-01-13 02:15:03 +00:00

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Matrix shows online members or offline?

Many people who once logged in and never come back might count more as a negative argument.

Matrix shows online members or offline? Many people who once logged in and never come back might count more as a negative argument.

lafriks commented

2018-01-13 09:39:07 +00:00

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@ShalokShalom matrix shows all users, also offline. That's one of the problem of it that for room with so many users it's not even possible to see users that are online... (or could be that currently no users in matrix are online at all)

ShalokShalom commented

2018-01-13 10:11:36 +00:00

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Fine, I see the point.

None the less, I prefer the free choice.

Fine, I see the point. None the less, I prefer the free choice.

lafriks commented

2018-01-13 10:59:27 +00:00

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Of free choices I would prefer mattermost but we would need to host it ourself then

ShalokShalom commented

2018-01-13 11:52:47 +00:00

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Well, I mean a free choice among those who are available. Currently, two are hidden and one is promoted.
These two are FOSS, the other one not. For a FOSS project, this seems somewhat obscure.

Well, I mean a free choice among those who are available. Currently, two are hidden and one is promoted. These two are FOSS, the other one not. For a FOSS project, this seems somewhat obscure.

lunny commented

2018-06-04 01:30:48 +00:00

Maybe we should use mattermost to do this in future.

strk commented

2018-06-04 14:17:16 +00:00

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